For Dr. Fred Hund, Hospitalist at Carris Health, medicine and nature have many parallels. The skills needed to navigate river rapids in Colorado aren’t all that different from the mettle that’s helpful when admitting a patient in the ER at 3 a.m. And having a difficult conversation with a patient is akin to sitting and talking around a campfire, because at the center of both is trust.

In this My Why podcast, Dr. Hund shares his remarkable story. From spending that first summer out west at the Telluride Mountaineering Guide School to medical school in New York, to calling Willmar, Minn. home. Take a listen.